Thursday, December 06, 2007

i'm sam storms ... kind of ...

I don't know Sam Storms and I don't didn't know much about his theology. But he seems to be a bit eclectic and since I'm accused of being odd, I thoroughly enjoyed and identified with his post explaining his position, i.e., "I am a Calvinistic, charismatic, complementarian, Christian hedonist." I wish I could write as well as he does.

To help you figure me out, I'll copy his position and then note if I disagree (or simply do not understand) via italics. I'll also add a little emphasis where I really agree via bold.

(1) I am a Calvinist (all five points, by the way). I hardly think this needs much explanation, and I refer you to my book, Chosen for Life: The Case for Divine Election (Crossway, 2007). There are several related issues that bear mentioning:
a. On the issue of the order of the divine decrees, I am an Infralapsarian (see Chosen for Life, pp. 213-19). I think I'm Supralapsarianism ... I think ... but I vacillate.
b. I believe that all those dying in infancy are elect (on my website, http://www.samstorms.com/, a defense can be found in Theological Studies, Controversial Issues).
c. I believe that regeneration, or the new birth, precedes and is the cause/source of saving faith. In other words, we are born again in order that we may believe, not the other way around.
d. In view of the present controversy, it is important that I affirm my belief in the forensic nature of justification in which the righteousness of Christ (often called his active and passive obedience) is imputed to the believer through faith alone.

(2) I am a Charismatic. When asked if I am "charismatic" I typically respond by saying, "Tell me what you mean by the term and I'll tell you if I'm one." More times than not, what people have in mind is far and away different from what I believe. So let me simply identify several relevant issues.
a. I believe that all spiritual gifts are valid today and that nothing in Scripture suggests otherwise. My chapter in the book Are Miraculous Gifts for Today? Four Views (Zondervan) is the most extensive answer I've given to this question. Also, my book The Beginner's Guide to Spiritual Gifts (Regal) provides an answer to the question of how such gifts operate in church life today.
b. I believe that baptism in the Spirit occurs at conversion for all Christians (again, check out the two articles on the website in Theological Studies, Controversial Issues). This sets me apart from classical Pentecostalism and much of the contemporary charismatic movement.
c. Although I do pray in tongues (daily), I do not believe that this or any other spiritual gift is designed by God for all Christians. Every Christian has at least one gift while no Christian (at least, none I know) has every gift (nor should they). I see the gifts of the Spirit (at least of the nature in 1 Co 12) as slightly different. I don't think that we don't "have" them. I think that we "use" them and in that sense, all are available to every believer as the Holy Spirit directs.
d. I believe healing is in the atonement in the same way I believe all spiritual and physical blessings are in the atonement. Were it not for the death and resurrection of Christ we would have nothing but the eternal damnation that we deserve. But not all such blessings are experienced in their fullness until the consummation of all things in the New Heaven and New Earth. This would certainly be true of the healing of the body. I tend to disagree but possibly merely to counter the notion that Pentecostals/Charismatics that they can claim healing in the same way the claim "salvation". This one needs more discussion/thought.
d. Although I do believe God heals today, I do not believe that the so-called "Health and Wealth and/or Prosperity Gospel" is in any sense a "gospel" and I ask all Christians to cease referring to it in such terms. Call it a "movement" or "philosophy" or even a "theology", but stop calling it a gospel! The same applies to what typically is called "The Word of Faith" movement, in much of which I struggle to find the presence of true, biblical "faith".
e. I believe in both (1) the finality, sufficiency, and authority of Scripture, on the one hand, and (2) the validity of revelatory gifts such as prophecy and word of knowledge, on the other. And no, the latter (2) is not a threat to the former (1).

(3) I am a Complementarian. I've written briefly on this issue at my website. The relevant material can be found in Theological Studies. A few words of clarification are in order.
a. If I am to err, I choose to err on the side of flexibility and freedom. In other words, I hesitate to restrict women from any form of ministry that does not have explicit biblical sanction.
b. As I read the New Testament, it appears that Paul and others restrict women from serving in what I call senior governmental authority, which would include the office of Senior Pastor (i.e., that individual or pastoral office responsible for the regular, authoritative exposition of Scripture) and Elder (or Bishop, depending on which term you prefer). Therefore, I believe a woman can serve as a deacon or worship leader or counselor or any other expression of Christian ministry that does not violate Paul's injunction against women exercising authority over men (1 Timothy 2:11-15; 3:1-7; Titus 1:5-9).

(4) I am a Christian Hedonist. Simply put, I believe it is impossible for us to desire pleasure too much, and that the pleasure we cannot desire too much is pleasure in God and all that he is for us in Jesus. For more on this, I direct you to my books, Pleasures Evermore: The Life-Changing Power of Enjoying God (NavPress) and One Thing: Developing a Passion for the Beauty of God (Christian Focus). If you want a shorter explanation, visit my website and you will see a brief article on the Home page titled, "What is Christian Hedonism?"

(5) I am an Amillennialist. This is a huge topic on which I am currently writing a book. So I'll limit myself here to only a few specifics. Although I have to admit that I easily lapse into Historic Premillennialism.
a. One of the primary reasons I am not a Premillennialist (neither Historic nor Dispensational) is because of what I read in the NT concerning the Second Coming of Christ.

To be a Premillennialist of any sort, you must believe that physical death and the curse on the natural creation will continue to exist beyond the time of Christ's return. You must believe that the New Heavens and New Earth will not be introduced until 1,000 years subsequent to the return of Christ. You must believe that unbelieving men and women will still have the opportunity to come to saving faith in Christ for at least 1,000 years subsequent to his return. To be a Premillennialist, you must believe that unbelievers will not be finally resurrected until at least 1,000 years subsequent to Christ's return and that unbelievers will not be finally judged and cast into eternal punishment until at least 1,000 years subsequent to Christ's return.

But my reading of what happens at the Second Coming of Christ indicates that then, and not 1,000 years later, physical death is swallowed up in the victory of Christ, never again to exert its power; the natural creation is delivered fully and finally from its bondage to sin; the New Heavens and New Earth are inaugurated; all opportunity for salvation of the lost comes to an end; and both the final resurrection and final judgment of all mankind occur.

b. I find no biblical support for a pre-tribulation rapture, Christian Zionism, a distinction between Israel and the Church, or a future seven year period known as the Great Tribulation.
c. I believe Matthew 24:1-35; Mark 13:1-31; and Luke 21:5-33 (otherwise known as the Olivet Discourse) refer to events that transpired in the first century, beginning with the exaltation of Christ and consummating with the destruction in 70 a.d. of both the city of Jerusalem and its Temple.

As I said, I hope to finish a book on eschatology sometime in 2008, but in the meantime you may read several articles in defense of these beliefs, available on my website under Theological Studies, Eschatology.

(6) I am a Baptist (or, "baptistic", as some prefer). If you've recovered from (5), and I suspect many of you haven't, let me turn briefly to another broad subject and focus on several important items (rest assured, of course, that being baptistic would entail far more than simply what I mention below).
a. I believe only those who are able to provide a credible testimony of personal faith in Jesus Christ should be baptized (immersed) in water.
b. I believe that a local church should be governed by a plurality of Elders, of which the Senior Pastor is one. I see no biblical basis for a church being led by a single Elder or Pastor. (No, this does not make me a Presbyterian, although I once served as interim pastor for three years in such a church.)
c. I believe that Jesus Christ is spiritually (and therefore, really, but not physically) present in the elements of the Eucharist and that the elements are more than merely a symbol of his body and blood. They are (one of) the sacramental means by which the sanctifying (but not saving) grace of Christ is mediated to the believer. For more on this, check out the two articles titled, "What Happens in the Eucharist?" on my website, Theological Studies, Miscellaneous Topics. I really want to say yes but I don't think I could prove it.

(7) I am a . . . I needed a seventh point to satisfy those who are obsessed with biblical numerology ("6" will never do, or so they tell me), so here is a brief list of other, often contentious, issues. (You can find articles on each of these issues on my website under Theological Studies, Controversial Issues.)
a. I believe that Open Theism is heretical.
b. I believe that eternal punishment in Hell is conscious and unending.
c. I believe that the NT leaves open the possibility for some form of apostolic ministry today (although without the Scripture-writing authority of the original company).
d. I believe Christians can be demonized (note, I did not say demon-possessed).
e. I do not believe the NT mandates that Christians "tithe" 10% of their income but I do believe in generous, sacrificial, proportionate giving that often times, depending on one's wealth, ought to exceed 10%.
f. While affirming the historicity of Adam and Eve as the first humans and parents of our race, I tentatively embrace the theory of an old earth and old universe. (I've not written anything on this, but may have to.) I don't follow that one so I'll disagree just so I don't seem too agreeable.

Please don't take this as a place to argue for or against the above points but I'd love to hear where you stand on those that you either strongly align to or disagree with. Please tell me your position without trying to sell anything. I'd love to hear from you.

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

OK, you asked. You know I differ with you on some of the Charismatic stuff.
Here are the other areas where I would differ:
(3)Complementarianism--You may see this as weird logic, but if I am going to error on a theological matter, I'd rather error on the conservative side. So, if I'm not sure a woman should fill a role, I'd say don't do it. There are probably other gifts she can exercise and fill her time. I guess I see the sin of omission being less serious than the sin of commission, as they say.
(5)b. 7 year future tribulation--I can agree that the timing of the rapture can be debated and is not all that clear in Scripture. However, I have to believe that there is a future 7 year tribulation. Does he (and you) believe that the 7 years was 70-77AD?
(6)b. senior pastor--It seems he (and you) dreamed up this one. There is no Scriptural precedence. I would be OK with teaching pastor, or vision pastor, or some other, but there is no senior pastor or senior elder.
(7)f. Adam and Eve--I think he is just saying that the days are not 24 hours. He believes the earth was around a long time before humans were created.

ricki said...

Thanks Randy - I missed the tribulation piece. I think I do see a future 7 year tribulation although I wouldn't fight on that. I overlooked it because I focussed on the pre-tribulation rapture which I cannot see at all from Scripture. This is interesting because that seems to be the part you would be flexible on ... hmmm. Another Keith Green'er, eh? Pray for pre but prepare for post. :-)

As for the senior pastor ... I would be ok, no, in fact I prefer a better choice of words. I aligned with the concept of some kind of leader among peers and assumed Storms was meaning that but choosing language that was in common use.

Anonymous said...

Like I've told you before--If you are not sure about pre-trib rapture, then you should be stockpiling 7 years worth of food, collecting guns and ammo, fortifying your house, etc.

Rick Frueh said...

A little overly complex however balanced. I agree with the gifts and many other things although I am pre-trib rapture. The baby-elect thing is taught nowhere in Scripture and the born again before faith deal is a Calvinist conjecture with no value (in other words who cares).

I found him to be fair but I disagree in some areas. My systematic theoology is way shorter due to laziness.

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